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  1. Isabel Barros
    September 10, 2010

    Great post Mark.
    The bill amendment doesn’t make sense at ALL.

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  2. Michael O’Neill
    September 14, 2010

    The Bill specifically requires evidence of establishment showing that the applicant for registration has provided services commensurate with those of an architect for 7 or more years.
    It doesn’t matter whether it says quantitative or not.
    It cannot be evidence of acting as a technician, a draughtsperson, or an undergraduate.
    If they can show they can do the work, what are you worried about?
    If they hold themselves out to be architects, they carry the same responsibility and the same liability.
    What you should be worried about is the growing number of architectural technologists that are around – architect-lite, not the same title or liability by the looks of things and undercutting prices in a catchment near you.

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    • markstephensarchitect
      September 15, 2010

      I’m not bothered by architectural technologists, at least they have a form of academic qualification and experience as long as they don’t call themselves architects.

      The problem is the zero checking of the “architects” that will result of the Bill amendment. There’s a big difference between having a candidate technically assessed by a panel and a worthless piece of self signed paper.

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  3. markstephensarchitect
    November 2, 2010

    Sorry, no youtube link

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  4. Sean McNamara
    January 16, 2011

    The Bill is self extinguishing, the day it is ratified it makes allowance only for Architects who have been in business for more than seven years. Other countries in Europe have included similar in their original legislation in consideration of the system that was in place before the Act.
    Some of these Architects are in practice for 20 & 30 years and came through their apprenticeships back in the day when getting into the one college in Ireland that run a course in Architecture for the rich kids of that time.
    As I said above the Bill is self extinguishing, no new faces can appear or register so if a practicing architect out there is only six years in business then he/she can’t register.
    Also another point you appear to have missed, this registration process run by the RIAI for ‘non-academically trained’ Architects is the most expensive registration process in Europe by multiples? Is the RIAI running a public sector like process here that it has to cost so much?
    Also in the registration process for ‘non-academically trained’ Architects, the applicant must have their application portfolio assessed by three riai architects who report their findings on to the registration board which consists of another three riai architects. How can someone who is in competition with an riai architect trust this system?
    The competition authority warned of this conflict of interest in 2003 and 2006 but which was ignore by the Government. They also recommended that a new independent body be set up to administer the registration process, similar to the SEAI.

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    • markstephensarchitect
      January 17, 2011

      Hi Sean

      Many thanks for the comment, couple of responses:

      Agree mostly with what you say, I think the biggest mistake was not setting up a separate registration body as they have in the UK with the ARB.

      The cost is for effectively an assessment of seven years work – it’s not just an administration fee to register someone, nor is it a fee to take an examination. I’m happy to be corrected but as far as I know Holland is the only other EU country that has this assessment method for architects registration – all other countries require academic qualifications. The cost therefore (let’s take the UK as an example) for the final Part 3 is the cost of the examination (written,oral, case-study etc…) and then there’s the annual fee to keep yourself registered as an architect – the previous 5 years have already been assessed and the 2 years practical training have been logged and checked. Therefore the cost of this is obviously going to be a lot less than assessing seven years worth of work.

      My principle gripe with the proposed Bill amendment is that (if you read carefully) there’s no assessment whatsoever; you write a written declaration that you have done the work and nothing (again correct me if I’m wrong) is checked by any assessment panel. The Bill amendment is a ridiculous idea and concept.

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